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hey how are you so sorry about that

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little technical glitch there I am

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Joshua Santora and I am would normally

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be coming to you live from the Kennedy

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Space Center but today I'm actually

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coming to you live from my house so as

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most of America and as most of the

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agency is experiencing when we're

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getting from home but still trying to

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bring you great content talking about

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things that are ongoing were making life

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work as best as we can it's kind of a

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crazy time but today specifically we're

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talking about Mars and the Martian

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surface specifically we want to be

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talking about the Mars rover Mars 2020

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recently given the title perseverance

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the named by a school at a Lake Braddock

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like Braddock secondary school in Burke

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Virginia gave it this beautiful name so

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this is part of the NASA at home series

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we're bringing you and it's not just me

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today I have a couple friends I have a

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few friends joining me actually so I

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want to check in with them so first up

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we've got Kenna Pell and Kenna is with

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NASA public affairs she's up there on

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the top right hand corner of your screen

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so thanks Kenna for being here how are

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you woops sorry about that try that one

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more time for McKenna yes we can yeah

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sorry about that we're good to go next

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up we've got David Stafford David how

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good yeah both you and our next guest

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it's been Marty and I saying that right

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bin awesome so Ben and David both coming

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to us live now actually from Florida so

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usually they're located over at the Jet

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Propulsion Laboratory NASA's Jet

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Propulsion Laboratory in California but

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today they're in Florida but before we

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dive into their stories kena's gonna

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duck out here she's keeping an eye on

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the questions that we've got going you

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can use hashtag NASA at home you can

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also use the the stream here of the

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comment stream to come in as well and

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she'll jump in here in a little bit if

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we have those questions so I'm gonna

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just jump in here David with you tell me

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a little bit about your role and what

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brings you guys all the way to Florida

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with this amazing rover

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well for the project from 2020 I'm the

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mechanical ground systems engineering

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lead for the a blue team and so my role

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essentially is sort of the lead of all

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of these sort of large tooling or all

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the tooling that helps with all the

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integration activities that support the

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rover and the spacecraft all the way up

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to launch and so whereas Bob's already

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from small hardware depth a large large

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hardwork and then along with that I also

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have the responsibility of leastly

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shipping the program so I was sort of

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responsibility to basically take our

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across country to Kennedy so we can

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continue the laughs of our integration

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activities that's fantastic so and I

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want to make sure that people appreciate

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kind of what that means you say pack up

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a high bay we're not talking about a few

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pieces of gear here and earlier you

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how many vehicles you had to use and

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what were those numbers again yeah so in

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themselves and then also with that

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moving all the personnel so it was a

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pretty large activity that's spanning

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shipments yeah that's it's good you

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people with the expertise coming from

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California they're JPL so so glad

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everybody is still making great progress

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Ben want to hear from you too I know

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that you support david and you also have

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some other roles so what did you do for

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JPL i'm in which means I handle sort of

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that GSE ground support equipment across

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the country I've also helped transport

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our robot around for some of our quick

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champagnes at JPL I leave lifts when we

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have to pick up spacecraft or components

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and put our spacecraft together and in

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technicians to get that beautiful

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the last man yeah so here I'm throw up

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talking about the technicians on the

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floor there you can see actually above

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there so what is it that you guys do in

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on that the cleanroom environment as you

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standard for spacecraft that's something

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that all of our spacecraft have varying

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levels of cleanliness requirements I

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and expertise but are you guys the ones

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the rover or is it really just a matter

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of that transportation aspect every day

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doing what are the activities assigned

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floor we do different tasks we can get

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activities and so any one of us can be

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the driving ramps at the GOC team

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earlier to me that you guys have kind of

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a primary role but everybody does a lot

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of things it ends up kind of keeping the

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team lean so what does that look like

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practically do you guys kind of just get

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tasked a day today to just hey jump in

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that they work on you're exactly right

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aeroshell so in that tactical meeting we

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two technicians to do this and engineers

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white procedures to handle those

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specific operations but it not you may

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install this electric box so we do have

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a very dynamic role on the floor that's

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transporting across the country you're

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operations so what's it like once you've

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been on the ground how difficult is it

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small task every key system will sort of

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each box each sort of containment vessel

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protection requirements they are tested

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they are proof tested they are even Road

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characterization both side of its

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containment box and then we do extra due

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diligence to make sure that we handle

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with care' things so I know you both

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your first major mission that you're

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phenomenal had you said four and five

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years you guys have been around with JPL

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which is great we're targeting a July

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launch with a planetary window of only a

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few weeks long but I want to ask you

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guys what's it like how do you feel like

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you're getting ready to help put a small

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car essentially on the surface of Mars

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what's that like for you Ben and then

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very exciting time we've been working

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very hard working long hours there's a

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lot of personal sacrifice that happens

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to get a spacecraft like this to the

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launch pad it's exciting it's tiring but

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we are looking forward to the end of

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this great adventure it's going to be a

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very exciting day one that rocket leads

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the Kennedy Space Center and they are on

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yeah david has yes so so as the at low

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engineer we're kind of the last we're

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the last integrators or the last people

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that touch it and basically we have a

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whole lab in companies that people

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that's entrusting the final sort of

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delivery of the product to us in our

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hands and then so we're we have the

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weight of the shoulders of everyone who

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has worked on this program and then

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making sure we do our due diligence and

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everything to sort of get this thing to

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the finish line and get this attached on

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top of its rocket so it's a huge a sense

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of pride and sense of relief that we

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know we're doing our best and we're on

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schedule and we're meeting all the

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requirements and the milestones as put

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awesome well David Ben I don't want to

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keep you any longer I know there's a lot

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of work to do again targeting in July

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window there's still a couple months a

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few months to go but lots to be done so

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thanks guys for joining me today thanks

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for having us and as you saw just a

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minute ago I did throw up this URL

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please be sure to check this out if you

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want to get more information on this

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mission its Mars dot nasa.gov slash Mars

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2020 a phenomenal mission really excited

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for this cannot wait but I do want to

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actually plug a couple other things

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today I mentioned earlier the NASA at

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home is a huge undertaking that NASA is

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doing right now understanding that

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there's a lot of people out there with

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opportunity to work on some things at

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thing today I'm gonna do this every

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media this week hopefully you saw these

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first crewed launch of you from American

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soil in in nine years so we're launching

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spacecraft on American Rockets from

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American soil and we're super excited

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announcement of the Japanese astronaut

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seviche Noguchi will be joining them as

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excitement going on and then we also had

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the dragon excel which is yet to be

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built so excited for for that progress

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on the moon by 2024 and then all you

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NASA fans out there will love this the

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reappeared so the worm has been found

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our classic NASA icon there in red

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pictured on the side of that dragon that

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excited for that cannot wait again lots

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ahead lots more to come but that is

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so again want to encourage you guys to

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check out everything that is NASA at

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home that URL there nasa.gov slash NASA

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at home and also be sure to check out

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the hashtag NASA at home and use that as

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well as you do these activities as you

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read and you understand and learn more

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we'd love to hear from you and see what

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so from the Kennedy Space Center sort of